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flapdoodle
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31 of 72  Sat 30th Mar 2013 8:40am  

On 29th Mar 2013 12:22pm, PhiliPamInCoventry said: The problem is that the thrust of the hotel business in Coventry was business. Accommodation used to be booked months in advance for delegations & the like. Coventry having lost so much of its business infrastructure, delegates from elsewhere nowadays go to the county clubs, golf hotels & so on. The hotels in Coventry now have to fight for whatever business is going, by cutting costs & or going out of business. Sad
Good point. Not only did it lose its business infrastructure, but also entertainment infrastructure. There is also the rise of the low cost hotels such as Premier Inn, who offer decent quality hotels for low prices, and newer places such as the Hilton. Some of these older businesses just haven't adapted. I once had some family members visit and stay in the 'Coventry Hill Hotel'. It was absolutely disgusting. The building needs to be condemned. There were actually gaps between the window frames and brickwork!
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Ace
Nuneaton
32 of 72  Sat 30th Mar 2013 10:30am  

On 30th Mar 2013 7:31am, JohnB said: I worked at the Royal Court in the late 70s/early 80s whilst doing my A levels. At that time it was in its heyday - smart dress required & the only carvery in Coventry (Fred Kilpatrick apparently introduced the idea into the area). I worked 3 nights a week as a wine waiter in the ballroom & thoroughly enjoyed it - certainly far easier than serving the food & better tips! The manager at the time was Neil Girling who ended up running a pub in Devon & Kilpatrick was very much in evidence there every night I also had a very short spell at the Allesley helping at a wedding - unfortunately I tipped a tray of liqueurs down someone's back at the end of the meal & after that never returned!
I recall the wine waiter at Allesley having a side line making serious money at Christmas. LOTS of staff parties meant LOTS of customers paying cash for their wine, so after each lunch session, he'd go to the wine supplier, Bablakes, and brought the same wine for a fraction of the menu price, and simply replace it, so when management did their stock count every night, his stock and takings would tally up. He used to pull about £40 a day from that caper, one of the old fashioned 'perks of the job'. He was NEVER greedy, just at Christmas.
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woodford
33 of 72  Sat 30th Mar 2013 8:37pm  
Off-topic / chat  

PhiliPamInCoventry
34 of 72  Sun 31st Mar 2013 11:54am  
Off-topic / chat  

flapdoodle
35 of 72  Sun 31st Mar 2013 7:25pm  
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Steve Morley
Dunstable
36 of 72  Mon 1st Apr 2013 2:21pm  

I worked for The Allesley for six months in 1972. At the time the hotel was owned by Coventry's Masonic Lodges. They employed a management team whose idea was to turn it into a five star hotel and restaurant. We had a French chef and a superb menu, but the customers just did not come. Whether it was just too expensive, or did not suit Coventrian tastes is a matter of conjecture, but, at times, members of staff outnumbered the number of customers in both the hotel and restaurant. The only times we were busy, was when there was a lodge meeting. Financially, it was a disaster, but the staff ate well! Cheers With such a lack of custom it was only a matter of time before the manager was replaced, the hotel put up for sale, and yours truly went back to engineering. One of the highlights was an old Triumph Mayflower that was parked in the car park and belonged to a staff member. I don't think it moved very far and, when the hotel was sold, it disappeared.
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Midland Red

37 of 72  Tue 9th Apr 2013 12:00pm  

Today's Coventry Telegraph reports that the Leofric (Travelodge) is to be converted into student flats Oh my
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creteskyblue
crete
38 of 72  Tue 9th Apr 2013 12:40pm  

Just beat me to the comment MR, another nail in the City Centre coffin. Regards.
Enjoy life,remember we walk this way but once.

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flapdoodle
Coventry
39 of 72  Tue 9th Apr 2013 6:56pm  

Not *really*. There two new Premier Inn Hotels in the city centre, plus the Ramada and then plans for more hotels as part of the Fargo development. I don't imagine the access problems helped much - making a hotel virtually inaccessible is not going to help business!
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
40 of 72  Sun 14th Apr 2013 8:08pm  

Merrick Lodge used to be our social club in the '60's (EMEB next door) had many an enjoyable 1/2 a shandy and a bag of crisps and a game of bar billiards at lunch time. My daughter tried to book a meal last year to take my mum who is in the care home next door and they said they did not do meals in the week!
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ianknight
Coventry
41 of 72  Wed 19th Jun 2013 5:28pm  

On 29th Mar 2013 12:09pm, LesMac said: I believe that Fred Kilpatrick started his working life as an apprentice electrician at Courtaulds Main Works. Couple of months ago relations of mine who live in Norfolk asked me to book accommodation for them near where I live. I couldn't accommodate all seven of them so I booked them into the Allesley Hotel.They were not over impressed neither was I. Les
I believe he was an apprenticed TV/Radio Engineer - dad used to work with him and always used to remind us when we went to functions at the Berkeley Grill (Fred's first hotel) and then later the Royal Court and Allesley.
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Baz
Coventry
42 of 72  Fri 21st Jun 2013 11:16pm  

You have to remember back then when these hotels were in their heyday, that pubs only sold beer and bar snacks. This must have took a large portion of the income away when pubs started meals and carveries.
Always looking forward to looking at the past.

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Disorganised1
Coventry
43 of 72  Thu 12th Sep 2013 7:21pm  

Fred was one of my dad's pals, and claimed that Fred started with a batch bar in Spon End. Fred also owned a hotel in Jersey - I forget which - I know he was mightily annoyed when they wouldn't grant him resident status,
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Ace
Nuneaton
44 of 72  Fri 20th Sep 2013 3:36pm  

Fred did indeed start with a batch bar in Spon Street, catering for bus drivers and conductors. When he sold his two hotels, Allesley and Royal Court, he 'retired' to Jersey, but soon became bored and returned a few years later.
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Radford kid
Coventry
45 of 72  Mon 23rd Sep 2013 2:33pm  

Fred Kilpatrick, I remember him well, from his early days at the Berkeley Hotel and the Royal Court, a very volatile man from my recollection, he always wanted his pound of flesh and thinking about it that was not such a bad thing, so many of us now just accept shoddy workmanship, he would always get his work done his way. For many years I organised the GPO engineers' dinner dance at the Royal Court and never had a bad dinner, he would always come into the dance area and introduce himself, always very smart. The band we used at the time every year was "The Barry James Trio", father and two sons, the manager was the mother, great band. Although we had our dance at the Royal Court he did not like GPO or any big establishments and I think his pet hate was the planning dept. Although he did not like the GPO/ Post Office Telephones because at the time they had the monopoly on all telephone systems (except Hull) he seemed to be ok with us telephone engineers. Talk about bad timing, Fred could not wait to purchase a new phone system from a private company when the government introduced de-privatisation and anyone could choose where to purchase a phone system. This is the bad timing bit. I was sent to the Allesley Hotel to install a private wire system (no internet in them days) so he could communicate with the Royal Court this circuit had to be connected to his newly purchased switchboard which was also being installed by a company called "Tannoy". Fred took great delight in rubbing ours noses in it, he loved it, he ripped GPO to bits, unfortunately the company went bust that same week and Post Office Telephones were invited to complete the installation. It's a funny thing, we never saw Fred again during the installation, I wonder why? Nice one Fred, fond memories. Colin.
Colin Walton

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