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196 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 12:20pm  

Telephone Directories don't help Sad Lloyds and Midland are listed only as "High Street" in both the 1930 and 1939 directories - we need a man with some directories Wink
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Helen F
Warrington
197 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 12:46pm  

Thanks to Heathite, the 1896 directory puts the Midland at 1, 2, 3 Little Park Street. I'll try to move backward and see who owned it before them. Ok, I've now looked at the 1886 directory, also courtesy of Heathite, and the corner of LPS is the Union Bank. Lloyds, Barnetts and Bosanquets Bank Ltd are further up the High Street. The 1874 directory is complicated but doesn't show Lloyds on the corner but 'Bank Chambers' block in a number of properties. No evidence that Lloyds were ever at the corner BUT if they absorbed the Coventry Union Bank, it's possible they were briefly housed on the corner of Little Park Street.
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Helen F
Warrington
198 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 2:53pm  

To demonstrate the changes to that area - on the left the 1874 directory, top right the 1897 fire insurance map and the 1850 Board of Health Map below. Note that Little Park Street was widened but as far as I can tell it was the east side that lost buildings.
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belushi
coventry
199 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 3:50pm  

On 26th Mar 2021 12:46pm, Helen F said: No evidence that Lloyds were ever at the corner BUT if they absorbed the Coventry Union Bank, it's possible they were briefly housed on the corner of Little Park Street.
It appears that the Midland Bank absorbed the Coventry Union Bank in 1889. The present building (i.e. Earl of Mercia) was constructed in the mid1890s, replacing the old headquarters of the Coventry Union Banking Company on the same site. So where is the Lloyds connection? Source: The Coventry Union Banking Company 1836-1889
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20A-Manor House
Coventry
200 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 5:04pm  

Coventry Herald 12th October 1894:
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belushi
coventry
201 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 5:23pm  

So it appears it never was a Lloyd's Bank. The Coventry Pubs website must have assumed that Lloyds No 1 Bar was named after Lloyds Bank. In reality there are many Lloyds No 1 bars in the Wetherspoon Group; apparently it is the Group's "upmarket" segment. Cheers
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Helen F
Warrington
202 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 5:37pm  

Reading belushi's PDF about the Coventry Union Bank and filling in info from maps - there was a Little and Woodcock Bank at the west junction of the High Street and Greyfriars Lane which later became the Coventry Arms PH listed as 1 Smithford Street. Additional - in the 1828 directory the building was listed as the High Street. On the Fire Insurance map the numbers on the High Street only go up to 33 but they stop at the east corner of Greyfriars Lane. It's possible that the buildings assigned to the High Street continued into Broadgate and over what was to become Hertford Street and up to number 38 but that argues with the address of the Coventry Arms. Alternatively they may have got the wrong number. I think that is increasingly unlikely that Lloyds Bank were ever on the Little Park Street corner and it was always part of the Midland Bank pre or post history.
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Rob Orland
Historic Coventry
203 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 6:59pm  

On 26th Mar 2021 5:23pm, belushi said: So it appears it never was a Lloyd's Bank. The Coventry Pubs website must have assumed that Lloyds No 1 Bar was named after Lloyds Bank. . . .
They almost certainly did! I've now updated those pages with the super information supplied by everyone on here, thank you all! Cheers Cheers Cheers https://pubhistory.historiccoventry.co.uk/main/pub.php?pg=lloyds
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belushi
coventry
204 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 7:06pm  

Next question - why was it called Cassidy's?
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Fourmilier
Coventry
205 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 7:47pm  

On 26th Mar 2021 11:38am, belushi said: Since the current Lloyds Bank building dates from 1932, where was it previously? Was it where the Midland Bank was, and, if so, where was the Midland Bank before 1932. Or has Coventry Pubs got it wrong?
I can answer part of your question. Lloyds Bank was previously at 22 High Street. Halifax Building Society moved in once Lloyds had moved out. Halifax celebrated 50 years at High Street in 1986, so it didn't move into the building until 1936.
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Helen F
Warrington
206 of 228  Fri 26th Mar 2021 8:25pm  

Hi Fourmilier, welcome to the forum Wave And thanks for the extra information about the Halifax. Smile
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belushi
coventry
207 of 228  Sat 27th Mar 2021 7:56am  

On 26th Mar 2021 7:47pm, Fourmilier said:
On 26th Mar 2021 11:38am, belushi said: Since the current Lloyds Bank building dates from 1932, where was it previously? Was it where the Midland Bank was, and, if so, where was the Midland Bank before 1932. Or has Coventry Pubs got it wrong?
I can answer part of your question. Lloyds Bank was previously at 22 High Street. Halifax Building Society moved in once Lloyds had moved out. Halifax celebrated 50 years at High Street in 1986, so it didn't move into the building until 1936.
So if the current Lloyds building was built in 1932, then the old one must have been empty for four years before Halifax moved in, unless Lloyds operated from both buildings during that time.
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20A-Manor House
Coventry
208 of 228  Sat 27th Mar 2021 10:06am  

Lloyds moved out in November 1932 and Halifax moved in during April 1936. Coventry Herald 18th November 1932:
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belushi
coventry
209 of 228  Sat 27th Mar 2021 10:58am  

Thanks Manor House. Another example of detailed newspaper reporting, the like of which is rare today in provincial newspapers.
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Prof
Gloucester
210 of 228  Sat 28th Aug 2021 8:23pm  

High Street from library
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