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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
121 of 146  Thu 25th Jun 2020 11:40am  

Helen, Your sketch above, they're not clearing gorse, they're burying people and I suspect from an epidemic from the number of bodies on the ground. The racecourse was well attended, large sums of money passed hands, but a long time before your sketch. On the corner of Brick Kiln Lane was the pub known as the Dog and Gun about 1850. The old coach road ran close to the cemetery, and many coachmen got lost over the common on dark nights. The pulling down of an old house in Little Park Street, to build a vaccine station in the 15th century, must have been the first health signs.
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Helen F
Warrington
122 of 146  Thu 25th Jun 2020 12:17pm  

All I can go by is the label on the image, the date and the maps. I know that it's the south part of the cemetery because I can see the spires and the railway line. I've got an unread book from the time period and I get the impression that work was created for desperately poor weavers and this was one of the tasks. Not free welfare that people get now but non essential work with a meagre wage. The maps don't indicate that the southern half of the cemetery was needed at the time. The north side may have indeed been planned because of large mortality numbers. Prior to the creation of this type of cemetery people were interred within church yards. When they ran out of space, they dug people up whether they might have had diseases or not. Some diseases like smallpox survive for years in corpses, which is why they take so much care when they come across a burial ground when digging foundations today. Yes, the vaccine station on LPS was an early health and welfare sign. Built some time between 1850 and 1889.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
123 of 146  Thu 25th Jun 2020 3:55pm  

Robthu, Can someone bury a person and then claim their royalty, if not, is there any laws?
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Robthu
Coventry
124 of 146  Thu 25th Jun 2020 5:59pm  

Hi Kaga, I wish I could in some way give you some definitive answers, but you yourself keep pointing out Coventry's (and probably everywhere else's) murky past and goings-on by supposedly upright citizens. I give you James Weare, mayor three times for one. Each time you look into something it brings so much more up, the Newspaper Archive site is a wonderful place, but I don't think it has yet solved for me something conclusively. Take the story of the dog being buried in there and then exhumed. "Fact or fiction" or a bit of each. Don't forget in those days the larger difference between the haves and have nots particularly in education, so pulling the wool over most people's eyes (so to speak) was easy then, people with money were few and looked after each other and these same people were the law as well. A little bit like today, but now I'm getting cynical. Derek. PS. Is there something specific to give me more to go on, answer privately if you wish?
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
125 of 146  Fri 26th Jun 2020 9:10am  

Not really, but the mods will have to decide about this. Lady Fitzherbert had a beautiful house in Brighton, about 400 yards from the Prince Regent's palace (Pavilion). It was rumoured they had a tunnel connecting, I never found it, either end. Brighton people said they never ever saw her in a pregnant condition, thought, she couldn't have children. Her house in the 1950's I slept in one time, now altered many times, it was the YMCA. Brighton OAPs got free passes to the Pavilion every winter so could explore. Hence my one time interest.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
126 of 146  Fri 26th Jun 2020 10:35am  

Robthu, forgot to thank you for your reply. No, nothing of Mayor Weare except he lived where the vaults appeared in Butcher Row 1824 to 26. A little later than Mayor Rew. The Prince Regent owned most of Cheylesmore and so more likely the land that became the cemetery. But became famous when staying as guest at Coombe Abbey with Lord Craven, Mayor Skears Rew and council paid a courtesy call. The Prince, so impressed by the Mayor, knighted him, but couldn't find a sword so did it with a butcher's knife.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
127 of 146  Sat 27th Jun 2020 10:26am  

Whitley Common has much to record in its past history. There was a raised circular mound where King Charles' tent is suppose to have been pitched in 1642 during the siege of the city; indications of the first road, between the old and the new roads on the common; the far end of the common they once worked sand. It was customary to bury criminals at the foot of the gallows, and local traditions say the bones of at least one person were ground, mixed with the sand, carried away, and used by the Holyhead Road trust in the building and bedding of Ryton bridge. 1837, and Mr Liggins, who had a mill near Whitley Common, enclosed some of the land and the Freemen's rights and built a wall upon it. By 1839 the Freemen were up in arms about it, met by police, they still pulled it down. The new boundary act had come into force. He took them to the County Court charged with 'riot' at Ansty. A verdict of 'Not Guilty' was returned for all 19 men, Liggins the miller having to pay.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
128 of 146  Sat 27th Jun 2020 2:15pm  

Several times the city was attacked, by King Charles camped outside with 6,000 horsemen where Coventry later built its cemetery, but the walls of the city and its soldiers and citizens held firm, and finally he gave up and moved to Worcester's Powick Bridge. At this time the fields and the woods surrounding Coventry were magnificent countryside.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
129 of 146  Mon 29th Jun 2020 4:30pm  

At Worcester, Colonel Legge was wounded, well known as the King's rebuff to the citizens of Coventry, he was brought back to the city, thrown in jail, and condemned to be executed. His wife went to see him, changed clothes with him, and he escaped. On 14 Jan 1667, an individual of extraordinary temperament was sent to Coventry gaol, John Temple, brother of Sir Richard Temple, wealthy, member of parliament and whose mother is said to have "seven hundred descendants", jailed for debts, and he, according to state papers, had no less than seventeen wives. (Sounds fun, till you think of all those mothers-in-law)
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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130 of 146  Fri 28th Aug 2020 5:01pm  

Hi all Wave I visited London Road earlier this week - a lot of work going on now from the Lottery Fund grant in conjunction with work on Charterhouse. Happy to report one notable thing I saw was scaffolding around the Riley family grave - looks like they are going to remount the stone cross that had become detached. Thumbs up
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zenith64000
whitehaven
131 of 146  Fri 18th Sep 2020 9:38pm  

When I was a kid in the late forties, early fifties we could access the cemetery via what was then used to store the gardeners' tools, wheelbarrows, spades etc. It was a scary place and we would make a quick in and out. As I recall, on the cemetery side the entrance was near to the children's memorial wall.
Len Morton

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Garlands Joke Shop
Coventry
132 of 146  Sun 16th May 2021 9:02pm  

Hi all, haven't posted in a while. Hope everyone's well Wave The Jewish chapel in the old section of London Road cemetery has been restored and as such the window is now viewable (as it was previously boarded up) so I managed to get a couple of photos of what it looks like inside. Thought the forum would find it interesting. Thumbs up
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Robthu
Coventry
133 of 146  Mon 17th May 2021 7:35am  

A little more information for you.
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lindatee2002
Virginia USA
134 of 146  Mon 17th May 2021 2:25pm  

Hi, Robthu, I thought that this was really interesting, especially as the building looked relatively modern. Was it built around the original Items? I worked at the University of Warwick in the sixties. and as a result, had several Jewish friends. There wasn't a synagogue in Coventry so they had to go to Birmingham to worship and they lived in a house in Radford so that they could keep kosher. The only other time I heard of Jewish people in the city was from Miss Molyneaux, a teacher at Ullathorne school. She told us that she had a Jewish friend who lived in those flats attached to the Belgrade Theatre and on some Saturdays she would visit to see if they needed any help on the Sabbath. This was revealing on two points - the first time I'd known that there was a very small group in Coventry and that my Catholic school teacher was reaching out to help. I was surprised and impressed.
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Garlands Joke Shop
Coventry
135 of 146  Mon 17th May 2021 2:26pm  

Thanks for this, Robthu! That's amazing, me and my dad were wondering what it said in Hebrew. Thanks! Thumbs up The Hebrew script is really quite beautiful, makes written English look rather dull. Smile
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