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SJT
Brisbane, Australia |
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Fri 4th Sep 2026 2:28am
Here is the photograph from 2025 (looking south along Cuckoo Lane). I'm trying to identify what the building would have been to the right where the beer garden is now (specifically in the 1830s). Please see my previous question in this topic where there is a picture with that space filled with a building.
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Rob Orland
Historic Coventry |
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Fri 4th Sep 2026 10:41am
Hi, and good to see you back!
By 1872 the part of the Jail in view above had been removed (leaving some jail space still in use behind the court-house), and the building of Gulson's Free Library was started, completed in 1873, and seen in the photo you've linked in your previous post. |
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Helen F
Warrington |
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Fri 4th Sep 2026 11:40am
Hi again
There was another part of the prison seen on the right here
However the picture you really want is in a book A History of Coventry by David McGrory, which has a black and white photo of a painting looking right down over the prison. It shows all of the area to the west of St Michael's in the right time for your research (1838). Ebay example The difficult part will be getting a copy in Australia for a reasonable price. I'd love to know where the original painting is as I'd grovel for a high resolution colour copy. |
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SJT
Brisbane, Australia |
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Sat 5th Sep 2026 2:19am
Thanks so much Rob and Helen! I can always count on you. So it looks like Mr Pryst's 'messuage' is the most likely contender as at 1830 but may have been demolished soon thereafter to make way for the gaol extension.
I went ahead and ordered David McGrory's book from eBay - thanks for the tip Helen! Postage to Australia was £2.95 would you believe!
You might also be interested in this extract from the Historical Note included in my novel regarding timing of completion of the new gaol extension. Onlly two months to launch date!!!
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Helen F
Warrington |
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Sat 5th Sep 2026 8:48am
I'm amazed at the postage! Well done. It's one of the best Coventry books. I remembered that there was a painting of the demolition, so I hunted it down and it's dated 1826 here. The prison proper was divided into 3 wings in a fan and each wing was divided in two with different types of prisoners in each (eg awaiting trial, debtors, etc). It's not unlikely that the most grievous prisoners would be the last to be moved to the newer cells.
It's difficult to date images and when I first collected them I didn't really care, as I was just looking for the oldest ones.
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Helen F
Warrington |
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Mon 7th Sep 2026 11:40am
Rob asked very nicely for permission to post the picture and great guy that he is, David McGrory replied "of course you can". Since things have a tendency to go walkies without permission or attribution, I've added a watermark that I hope doesn't detract too much. If you want an uninterrupted view, you need to buy the book
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SJT
Brisbane, Australia |
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Tue 15th Sep 2026 10:47pm
The book arrived, Helen, with that picture in all its glory! I'm reading the book now but I noticed Mr McGrory has completion of the new gaol in 1831.There were works continuing as late as Feb 1833 but perhaps most of it had been done by then. It mentions a meeting in 1829 to determine compensation payable to the Trust that owned a house adjoining County Hall. The house was occupied by a Mrs Baker and was to be demolished to make way for the gaol extensions. I imagine that's the same 'messuage' occupied by Mr Pryst some years earlier.
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